Comments on: DVeStore’s Shotgun Shootout http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/ training and resources for digital video creators Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:33:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: John Willett http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-133286 John Willett Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:23:46 +0000 http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-133286 I know I am posting late, but I felt I had to comment on the post that said that the MKH 416 is cheaper and sounds better than the MKH 60. The MKH 60 is vastly superior to the 416 - it is less coloured, has lower noise and lower distortion figures especially intermodulation distortion. Most people who have used the MKH 60 will never go back to a 416 as it sounds noisy and low output in comparison. In comparison it's like going back to a blended whisky after drinking a single malt. I have been using the MKH 20/30/40 (same series as the 60) for over 20 years and would now never use anything less. I know I am posting late, but I felt I had to comment on the post that said that the MKH 416 is cheaper and sounds better than the MKH 60. The MKH 60 is vastly superior to the 416 - it is less coloured, has lower noise and lower distortion figures especially intermodulation distortion. Most people who have used the MKH 60 will never go back to a 416 as it sounds noisy and low output in comparison. In comparison it’s like going back to a blended whisky after drinking a single malt.

I have been using the MKH 20/30/40 (same series as the 60) for over 20 years and would now never use anything less.

]]> By: AFI Screen Education » A Camera For Your Classroom http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-85703 AFI Screen Education » A Camera For Your Classroom Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:19:13 +0000 http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-85703 [...] for an external microphone, I recommend going for it. That is, if you can afford an additional $250-$400 for a decent shotgun microphone. Now, all good shotgun microphones will have XLR inputs and outputs. Cameras in this price range [...] […] for an external microphone, I recommend going for it. That is, if you can afford an additional $250-$400 for a decent shotgun microphone. Now, all good shotgun microphones will have XLR inputs and outputs. Cameras in this price range […]

]]> By: B Gilbert http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-78743 B Gilbert Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:57:20 +0000 http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-78743 This is an extremely useful resource... thanks for putting it together. I've ALWAYS liked to listen to mics in a side-by-side comparison before using them, but don't have those resources since our studio closed down. Of course, like everyone else, I'd love to see it expanded to include other mics or locations. I for one would like to hear this same comparison using some of the more commonly available lav mics... especially less expensive ones. (After all, you can usually expect to get great sound out of a Neumann, but can I get CLOSE to that quality without a second mortgage? And without the worrying about damage or loss in ENG situations.) Still, what you've done is terrific and much appreciated! This is an extremely useful resource… thanks for putting it together. I’ve ALWAYS liked to listen to mics in a side-by-side comparison before using them, but don’t have those resources since our studio closed down. Of course, like everyone else, I’d love to see it expanded to include other mics or locations. I for one would like to hear this same comparison using some of the more commonly available lav mics… especially less expensive ones. (After all, you can usually expect to get great sound out of a Neumann, but can I get CLOSE to that quality without a second mortgage? And without the worrying about damage or loss in ENG situations.) Still, what you’ve done is terrific and much appreciated!

]]> By: Max http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-44291 Max Wed, 30 May 2007 21:53:58 +0000 http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-44291 Can u add to this collection the audio technica 835b Can u add to this collection the audio technica 835b

]]> By: Mikrofonvergleiche at Sound Design http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-42459 Mikrofonvergleiche at Sound Design Mon, 21 May 2007 14:45:12 +0000 http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-42459 [...] DVeStore’s Shotgun Shootout Audio Technica AT897, Audio Technica AT4073a, Rode NT3, Rode NTG-2, Rode VideoMic, Sennheiser K6/ME 66, Sennheiser MKH416 [...] […] DVeStore’s Shotgun Shootout Audio Technica AT897, Audio Technica AT4073a, Rode NT3, Rode NTG-2, Rode VideoMic, Sennheiser K6/ME 66, Sennheiser MKH416 […]

]]> By: Mike Peter Reed http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-1432 Mike Peter Reed Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:46:26 +0000 http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-1432 What might be a nice addition apart from what has been mentioned above about field testing, is posting each mic's specs - eg, whether they are hot or cold and what the frequency response is. Ok, I know I can (and have) googled for that info, but here you could keep it all in one place :-) What might be a nice addition apart from what has been mentioned above about field testing, is posting each mic’s specs - eg, whether they are hot or cold and what the frequency response is. Ok, I know I can (and have) googled for that info, but here you could keep it all in one place :-)

]]> By: DC Patterson http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-1104 DC Patterson Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:09:42 +0000 http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-1104 An outdoor test would be very usefull, however, many poorly designed shotgun mics reveal their worst problems inside when walls in close proximity disable the interference tube design that makes a shotgun "directional". I always use a hypercardiod inside as it sounds more natural. This current test takes place in an acoustically designed and corrected room (wich never happens on a shoot) and the mic placement does not reflect 99% of setups you are forced to encounter. A big giveaway is the boom in shot on every clip. Some mics have an enhanced bottom end (bass freq) to help overcome the distance you often have to mic at. We have no way of getting a handle on this in these demos because the "talent" is virtualy on top of the mic. I appreciate that someone got the ball rolling with these tests. I think a further usefull test would be: in your parking lot on a breezy afternoon (with a proper wind/shockmount). Record a radio lavelier mic to track 2 and let us hear the benefits of using a good shotgun. Repeat test in a warehouse or bathroom with lots of hard surfaces. An outdoor test would be very usefull, however, many poorly designed shotgun mics reveal their worst problems inside when walls in close proximity disable the interference tube design that makes a shotgun “directional”.

I always use a hypercardiod inside as it sounds more natural.

This current test takes place in an acoustically designed and corrected room (wich never happens on a shoot) and the mic placement does not reflect 99% of setups you are forced to encounter.

A big giveaway is the boom in shot on every clip.

Some mics have an enhanced bottom end (bass freq) to help overcome the distance you often have to mic at. We have no way of getting a handle on this in these demos because the “talent” is virtualy on top of the mic.

I appreciate that someone got the ball rolling with these tests. I think a further usefull test would be: in your parking lot on a breezy afternoon (with a proper wind/shockmount). Record a radio lavelier mic to track 2 and let us hear the benefits of using a good shotgun. Repeat test in a warehouse or bathroom with lots of hard surfaces.

]]> By: Jake Unger http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-1058 Jake Unger Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:39:02 +0000 http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-1058 A nice test if you do all your video work in a sound studio. How about doing that test in the field? I'm suggesting you do a test that allows everyone to hear how well the mic rejects unwanted sounds. And place the mic over head & pointing down at the speaker. A nice test if you do all your video work in a sound studio.
How about doing that test in the field? I’m suggesting you do a test that allows everyone to hear how well the mic rejects unwanted sounds. And place the mic over head & pointing down at the speaker.

]]> By: Mark S http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-377 Mark S Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:16:46 +0000 http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-377 I wish I would have heard this before buying the ME66/K6. The Rode NT3 sounds almost as good if not better for half the cost. After using a variety of Rode products the cost/performance value is really starting to show. I wish I would have heard this before buying the ME66/K6. The Rode NT3 sounds almost as good if not better for half the cost. After using a variety of Rode products the cost/performance value is really starting to show.

]]> By: DV Gear Talk at DVcreators.net http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-357 DV Gear Talk at DVcreators.net Mon, 29 May 2006 23:15:42 +0000 http://www.dvcreators.net/shotgun-shootout/#comment-357 [...] [...] […] […]

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